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The Margin Method
The Margin Method™ Podcast is for founders who want to grow intentionally creating profit, systems, and freedom at every stage.
Hosted by Steve Coughran, a founder and strategic finance expert who’s led billion-dollar turnarounds, this show shares real-world strategies to build financial, operational, and leadership margin the true foundation of a business that scales, sustains, and sells.
Because margin isn’t just about better numbers. It’s about building a business that gives you profit, freedom, and a life you actually want to live.
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The Margin Method
109: What Paris Taught Me About Margin
Most businesses don’t fail because they lack hustle, they fail because they lack margin.
In this heartfelt episode of The Margin Method, Steve shares a powerful realization sparked by a family trip to Paris.
Through personal stories and sharp insights, he unpacks why financial margin alone isn’t enough, and how operational and leadership margin are just as critical to your success. If you’re feeling stretched thin, stuck in the grind, or constantly running but never catching up, this episode is your wake-up call.
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(0:00)If we don't have time for strategic thinking, if we don't have time for just thinking, (0:05) then we're just going to be running around in circles wasting a lot of resources, (0:09) energy, and capital in our businesses.
Welcome to The Margin Method, where we talk about how (0:14) to grow profitably, create margin across your finances, operations, and leadership, (0:19) and build a business that runs without you and grows without burning out your team. (0:24) I hope you enjoy and subscribe.
Today, I want to talk about one of the big realizations that I had (0:29) on a recent trip to Paris with my daughter and my wife. See, when my kids were young, (0:34) I decided that I was going to make it a priority to do these one-on-one daddy-son, (0:40) daddy-daughter trips with my kids, because I wanted that time away with them, that one-on-one (0:45) time, and I wanted to create these memories early on, because I knew, based on what everybody was (0:49) telling me, that time would go by so fast, and before I knew it, they'd be out of the house. (0:53) So that's what I've done year after year with my children.
And I always promised my kids that when (0:58) they turned 12 years old, I'd take them somewhere international. And hence the trip to Paris. My (1:03) daughter just turned 12, and it was an amazing trip.
Now, the way out there and the way back (1:08) was the same. My daughter didn't have her earbuds, so I let her have my earbuds, and therefore, I (1:13) found myself just sitting on the plane in pure silence with my notebook and my pen, which was (1:18) totally fine. So it's kind of nice not listening to music or being distracted by movies for the (1:23) entire flight.
Instead, I just thought about life. I thought about business. That's what I do a lot. (1:28) I think a lot about business. And I had this big realization during this trip. Now, I'm a big (1:34) strategy finance guy.
On the podcast, I talk a lot about strategy and finance and how when you (1:39) combine them together, it drives a tremendous amount of value. I've also spent my entire (1:43) career turning around and growing companies. So I'm a big numbers person.
And when I look at (1:49) companies, oftentimes I realize that they are living far below their potential, which means (1:55) they're not earning the profit and they're not generating the cash flow necessary (1:59) to create a sustainable and a valuable business. But, and it's a pretty big but, it's not about (2:06) just financial margin. It's about margin across the board, which I'm going to get into in this (2:11) episode.
Now, here's the deal. I was walking down the street with my daughter and my wife. I was (2:16) holding their hands. We're just sharing stories, sharing experiences and good food and plenty of (2:21) pastries, too many pastries, in fact. And it was an amazing trip. And I didn't have an agenda (2:27) other than a bike tour and a museum and a trip to the palace of Versailles scheduled.
But other (2:32) than that is a pretty open agenda for a few days, which is amazing. And we just had the opportunity (2:40) to slow down and just spend this time with each other. And I've had people say to me, because (2:45) I've been to 48 countries now, wow, Steve, I wish I could travel as much as you do.
And I'm like, (2:52) you can, you can, like you have resources, you have the same amount of time. It's just either (2:59) you don't make it a priority or more importantly, you don't make margin in your life. You don't (3:06) have the capacity to even do a trip like this.
And I had this overwhelming sense of gratitude (3:14) on the trip because I thought, wow, this is why margin really matters. And I'm so grateful for (3:22) this margin that I have right now in my life. But I know that not everybody has favorable (3:28) circumstances like this.
So you may be listening to this right now and you don't have the financial (3:33) margin in your life to do a trip like this. That makes sense. You should be prudent. I'm not (3:38) saying you should go out there and rack up a trip on your credit card if you don't have the money. (3:42) So you may not have the money, but more importantly, and I would suspect that you are (3:49) probably listening to this and the problem isn't a financial margin. It's more about a life margin.
(3:57) And look, I'm not perfect at this. There have been plenty of times in my life where I didn't (4:01) have margin in my life. For example, when I was a CFO of a billion dollar company, (4:06) my day was stacked meeting after meeting, after meeting, after meeting.
I didn't even have time (4:11) to go to the bathroom. At one point I told my assistant, I'm like, you have to schedule like (4:14) bathroom breaks because I'm just going back to back to back to back. And every meeting was running (4:18) over a little bit and it's just so hectic.
I had no margin. I had no time to think. I had no capacity (4:25) to be the leader that I needed to be. And guess what? We left a ton of money on the table when (4:29) I was operating like this because I was lacking operational and leadership margin.
And that was (4:36) the big realization on the trip is that it comes down to margin in three different areas, financial (4:43) margin, operational margin, and leadership margin. Like I said, I talk a lot about finance because (4:49) I believe if you understand the story behind the numbers and you can put in place really good (4:54) strategies to go execute on the story, right on what the story is telling you, you can make amazing (5:00) things happen.
And it starts with financial margin. Like if you don't have margin in your business, (5:05) guess what? You can't reinvest in your people, in equipment, in technology, in your operating (5:10) model and better products and services and your customers, et cetera. And eventually your business (5:14) will start to decline or you'll be disrupted.
So having financial margin is super critical. (5:21) And I'm not going to spend the whole episode on this. Instead, I want to talk about the other (5:25) two types of margin, operational margin and leadership margin.
Here's the deal with operational (5:29) margin. If you don't have systems in place in your business, in other words, you don't have (5:34) documented processes, you don't have standard operating procedures, SOPs, and you don't have (5:39) checklists. Guess what? The chaos is just going to scale as your business scales and you're going (5:44) to become the bottleneck to your business.
I've seen so many business owners that go to exit and (5:49) guess what? The buyer comes in and says, yep, we'll give you X amount, which is a lot less than they (5:54) could be getting because there's an inherent key man discount. But also they're required to stay (6:00) for one, two, five years to help with the transition because they play such a pivotal part (6:06) in their business. So that's what I'm talking about.
Operational margin. So many companies, (6:10) they don't have the leverage because they don't have the systems. When we go into an organization (6:16) and we help them to scale or we turn them around, we put in place an operating system. (6:21) That's how we do it. We don't just go in there and do a bunch of random one-off consulting (6:26) engagements for companies. We give them a system to follow to create repeatable results.
(6:33) But organizations, they lack systems. Oftentimes they just go out there, they get work, they do (6:38) work, they get work, they do work, and they get so busy in this cycle that they don't take a step back (6:44) to realize how to create systems. Or companies get so focused on creating a manual, right? They (6:51) start documenting processes, but how they document those processes and how they deliver (6:56) these systems or create mechanisms and structure so these systems actually exist doesn't always (7:02) align well with how things actually happen out there in the field, right? In the operations (7:07) of the business.
I was working with a company once and they spent so much money developing (7:12) these SOPs, standard operating procedures. In fact, they had a super thick manual with everything (7:18) documented out, but nobody referred to it because the culture, the behavior behind (7:24) the documented processes wasn't reinforced by this entire system. And that's what I'm talking (7:31) about.
Like you could have the best manual in the world, but if nobody refers to it (7:34) or they're circumventing the manual, then it's not going to stick. It's not going to be a part (7:39) of the business. That's why you need an entire system and documented processes are just a part (7:45) of this system. They're not the system in itself.
But if you're just running your business, like I (7:49) said, and you don't have operational margin, guess what? You're never going to be able to innovate (7:53) and you're going to burn out your employees or you're going to have key man risk. And so many (7:58) business leaders operate like this.
And then let's talk about leadership margin. Leadership margin (8:04) is where I struggle when I was a CFO of that company. Like I said, I had very little margin.
My margin came at five or six in the morning when I was going for a run because nobody could (8:09) contact me because even when I went into the office early, people found out that I was going (8:14) into the office early. So they'd come into my office and be like, Hey Steve, you got five minutes (8:23) and it turned into 30 minutes. And that quiet time quickly evaporated.
So leadership margin (8:29) is really critical because we don't have time to think as leaders. We're just constantly bombarded (8:34) with things and more and more stuff comes onto our plate all the time. And look, I still struggle (8:40) with this today, even though I know leadership margin is super critical.
If we don't have time (8:45) for strategic thinking, if we don't have time for just thinking or the space to receive revelation (8:53) and inspiration, then we're just going to be running around in circles, wasting a lot of (8:58) resources, energy and capital in our businesses. The realization that I had is not that this stuff (9:04) isn't important or not that there's this giant margin gap in everybody's lives. Like I realized (9:09) that working with businesses, I just realized that it extends far beyond just financial margin.
And oftentimes I just talk about financial margin, but what about the business owner (9:14) who is out there grinding? All right. They're grinding. They put everything they have into (9:25) their business, their life savings, they're leveraging their credit cards.
Maybe they (9:30) have a second mortgage on their home because they put money into the business. And at the same time, (9:37) they're trying to grow this business. They're also trying to manage relationships at home with (9:42) their partner or with their spouse or with their kids.
And it's just a lot. Or the business owner (9:48) who is successful and has tons of margin, tons of financial margin, but the relationships with (9:55) their spouse or their partner has slowly eroded over the years and they don't even know each other. (10:01) And the relationship with their kids is non-existent because they spent so much time up front (10:05) building their business and amassing this wealth that they lost everything else that's important (10:10) in the process.
Or the owner that's just grinding it out and believes in the hustle culture (10:15) and then later on spends all their money that they made trying to repair their health because (10:21) they find themselves in a health crisis because they didn't take the time to exercise, to eat well, (10:26) to sleep well, right? I'm looking at myself. I don't even sleep well. So these are the things (10:31) that are on my heart and this is what really hit me when I was in Paris.
I was like, okay, (10:36) there are things I need to change in my life to get more margin, but I know that other people (10:41) are struggling with this as well. And when I posted this on LinkedIn, there's quite a response (10:47) and it's like, okay, I hit a hot button for people. And this is something that I think is (10:52) really important.
It's just this idea of how do we create more margin, financial margin, (10:56) operational margin, and leadership margin in our businesses. And this is what I'll (11:01) continue to explore with you. So I just wanted to introduce this concept with you this week.
(11:06) And also I wanted to tell you about this three week challenge that we just put together (11:10) that helps companies to increase margin. So it's free. You could go to coltivar.com (11:16) and you could take a short quiz. It takes like 30 seconds to answer a few questions.
(11:20) And then we'll send you a customized three week plan. And then in the three week plan, (11:25) we provide instructions, guides, and tools to help you to increase your profit, to get more (11:31) cashflow, and to gain more clarity in your business by introducing you to the strategy (11:37) framework that we've used over and over again to turn around and grow companies.
(11:41) It's totally free, no gimmicks, just sign up. And then if you want support with this three week plan, (11:47) in other words, if you want to take the three week challenge that coincides with the plan, (11:51) the three week challenge gives you step-by-step videos to follow along with me as I walk you (11:57) through all the exercises in the three week plan. So you could upgrade to that if you're interested.
(12:02) Be sure to check that out. You don't need to be a financial person to understand this. You just (12:05) need to be a business owner or a business builder who wants more profit, more cashflow, and more (12:11) clarity.
(12:13) That's my gift to you. All right. Until next episode, take care of yourself. Cheers.