
The Margin Method
The Margin Method™ Podcast is for founders who want to grow intentionally creating profit, systems, and freedom at every stage.
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The Margin Method
104: You’re Making Money- So Why Is There No Cash?
Your income statement says you're winning so why does it feel like you're broke?
In this episode of The Margin Method Steve unpacks one of the most common (and costly) issues business owners face: the disconnect between profit and cash.
Through relatable stories and a simple four-step framework, he explains why profit is just the story and cash is the truth. If you've ever skipped a paycheck to make payroll or felt financially stuck despite growing revenue, this episode is your roadmap to clarity, control, and real cash flow confidence.
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(0:00) If you're profitable on paper, but constantly stressed in life, (0:04) you don't have a profit problem, you have a cash problem. (0:07) Your profit is the story, your cash is the truth.
(0:11) Welcome to The Margin Method, where we talk about how to grow profitably, (0:15) create margin across your finances, operations, and leadership, (0:19) and build a business that runs without you and grows without burning out your team.
(0:24) I hope you enjoy and subscribe.
(0:27) Today, we're tackling something that has driven a lot of founders to near breakdown. (0:32) Something that makes you feel like you're losing your mind. (0:35) You're working your tail off, your business is growing, (0:38) you got sales coming in, your income statement says you're profitable, (0:42) and yet, you feel broke.
(0:44) Every month is a cash crunch, payroll's a stretch, (0:47) you're up late wondering if the business is actually working. (0:51) I've been there before, trust me, I have felt that many times in my life, (0:55) and if that's you, you're not alone.
(0:57) In fact, this is one of the most common, most understood problems in business. (1:02) Today, we're going to fix that. (1:03) We're going to break down the disconnect between profit and cash, (1:06) and I'm going to give you a simple framework to get control of your cash flow, (1:11) starting right now.
(1:12) Let me kick things off with a story. (1:14) A while back, I was working with a founder, we'll just call him Chris. (1:18) Chris had built a $5 million a year business in the home services space.
(1:22) He had a great team, loyal customers, and according to his accountant, (1:26) a healthy net profit. (1:28) But when I first met him, here's what he said. (1:31) He's like, Steve, I'm not sure what's going on.
(1:34) I'm making money, but my bank account doesn't show it. (1:37) I'm stressed out every single month. (1:39) I've even skipped a few paychecks just to make payroll. (1:42) What am I missing?
(1:43) So we dug into the numbers, and guess what? (1:46) Chris didn't have a profit problem, he had a cash flow visibility problem. (1:51) Like so many founders, he was looking at his P&L (1:54) and thinking that meant he had cash in the bank. (1:57) But profit and cash are not the same thing.
(2:00) In fact, I just wrote a book, it's called Cash Flow, (2:02) and the reason why I wrote this book is because (2:04) so many business owners and founders struggle with this concept. (2:08) So in this book, I walk through the exact drivers to influence cash flow, (2:12) and I explain what it is and how to get more of it. (2:14) So if you're interested in that, right now, as of the date of this recording, (2:18) don't hold me to this if you're listening to it later on and I change my offer, (2:21) but right now, you could go to coltivar.com, that's my website, (2:25) and you could get the book for free.
(2:26) If you live in the continental US, you just have to cover shipping. (2:30) I'll cover the cost of the book. (2:32) All right, cool? (2:33) All right, so if that's interesting to you, check it out.
(2:35) I wrote it to be very simple. (2:36) It's not for financial people, and I drew some pictures for you. (2:40) Okay, all right, so that's a valuable tool I have to offer, (2:43) but let's get back to things, and let's clear this up once and for all.
(2:46) Profit is what your accountant says you earned. (2:50) Cash flow is what you can actually spend.
(2:54) So here's a simple example. (2:56) Let's say you land a $100,000 project. (2:59) You bill the client in January, and your P&L, which is also your income statement, (3:04) shows $100,000 in revenue. (3:06) Great, right?
(3:07) But the client doesn't pay until March, and in the meantime, (3:11) you've already paid some contractors, your team, supplies, overhead, et cetera. (3:16) And you're out $75,000 in actual cash before you ever see a dime. (3:21) So on paper, you're profitable, but in reality, (3:24) you're floating your client like a bank. (3:26) And that's the kind of gap that kills good businesses.
(3:29) In fact, I was just on a board meeting call the other day, (3:32) and I was talking to this company, and I said, (3:34) I didn't know you guys started another business. (3:37) And they all looked at me, and they're like, (3:39) we did start a business. (3:41) What are you talking about? (3:41) I said, you started the bank of blah, blah, blah.
(3:43) And I said the company name. (3:44) And they're like, what are you talking about? (3:46) I'm like, you are financing your accounts receivable for your clients, (3:51) because their AR was like over 60 days, even though their terms were 30 days. (3:55) So therefore, they were floating that 30 days extra, (3:58) because they weren't managing their accounts receivable.
(4:01) And that type of mismanagement with working capital is what I'm talking about. (4:05) That's the killer of businesses. (4:06) Now, they thought it was funny. (4:07) Maybe they thought it was funny. (4:09) Maybe they didn't. (4:09) But so many of you out there are running a bank alongside your business, (4:14) because you're floating your working capital, (4:16) and you're not managing it correctly.
(4:17) So when you look on your P&L, your income statement, (4:20) it shows that you have profit. (4:21) And that's what I used to do when I was running my landscape company back in the day. (4:25) And I had no clue that there's a difference between profit on the income statement (4:29) and my bank account or cash flow, right?
(4:32) So when I look at the income statement, I'm like, (4:34) this is not helpful, because I'm looking at my bank account. (4:39) I'm like, we could barely cover payroll coming up. (4:42) So that's the disconnect you may be feeling.
(4:44) So let’s dig into a few of the usual suspects that I’m talking about.
(4:48) Number one is slow paying clients. (4:50) So you finish the work, you send the invoice, (4:53) and then you wait, and you wait, and you wait. (4:55) The longer that cash sits in your client’s bank instead of yours, (4:59) the tighter your situation gets.
(5:01) And I’ve seen companies with hundreds of thousands of dollars, (5:04) even millions of dollars in accounts receivable, (5:06) while the CEO is personally funding payroll. (5:10) That’s what I’m talking about here.
(5:11) Number two, okay, pre-spending for revenue. (5:14) A lot of businesses, especially in construction, services, (5:18) or product-based industries have to spend before they earn. (5:22) So you go out there and you buy materials, you bring on team members, (5:25) you mobilize to a job site, you invest in software or contractors, (5:29) but the revenue doesn’t hit for weeks or months. (5:32) This time gap is a silent killer.
(5:35) So when I was the CFO of this billion dollar company, (5:38) that’s the situation we’d oftentimes find ourselves in. (5:41) Because we’d go to our clients and say, (5:43) all right, can we send you a bill for mobilization (5:44) or for these materials that we just bought? (5:47) And oftentimes they’re like, yeah, you could do that, (5:49) but go ahead and mobilize and ship things to the job site, (5:51) and then send us an invoice and we’ll pay you in like 30 or 45 days. (5:54) Well, guess what? (5:55) The company would have to cover that. (5:57) They’d have to front that cash.
(5:59) All right, so you have to be very careful about that.
(6:01) Number three, one-time big purchases. (6:04) Let’s say you invest in a $50,000 piece of equipment. (6:07) You write that check today. (6:08) Your accountant will depreciate it over five years.
(6:12) So it barely touches your P&L. (6:14) Instead, that asset that you just bought is recorded on your balance sheet under fixed assets. (6:21) It doesn’t show up on your income statement except under depreciation, (6:24) but you’re only going to get a portion of that depreciation hitting your income statement.
(6:30) And that’s where the discrepancy comes in from your income statement and actual cash flow. (6:35) So the cash is gone today. (6:37) And if you don’t plan for that, it feels like the money just vanished.
(6:40) Number four is taxes and distributions. (6:43) You made $200,000 in profit, which is great, right? (6:47) But now Uncle Sam wants his cut, and so do you. (6:50) But if you already spent that cash because you took a distribution from your business (6:54) and you didn’t put aside money for taxes, (6:56) you’ll be scrambling when the tax bill hits (6:58) or trying to make additional personal draws or distributions (7:02) from a business account that’s bone dry.
(7:05) So my advice to you is if you’re taking distributions, (7:08) I tell my clients this all the time, (7:09) if you’re taking distributions or dividends out of your business, (7:12) then be sure to set aside a certain amount of money in a separate account. (7:17) So in my businesses, what I do is I have a tax savings account. (7:20) This is a personal account.
(7:22) So I’ll take a distribution for the business. (7:24) Let’s say it’s $100,000. (7:26) I’ll set aside 35% and I just put that money in the savings account (7:31) and it just sits there until I true up things with taxes.
(7:35) And I use this account to do my estimated tax payments. (7:38) And you can do the same thing.
(7:40) What you don’t want to do is take a distribution, go spend it all. (7:43) And then at the end of the year, think, oh no, (7:45) like I don’t have any money in my account to pay taxes.
(7:48) I ran into this once with a client who was in the healthcare space. (7:51) He came to me, he’s like, Steve, (7:53) the IRS is saying I owe a million bucks in taxes.
(7:55) But he said, look at my balance sheet. (7:58) I don’t even have that much cash in the business. (7:59) How can that be? (8:01) And it’s like, because you’re taking distributions, (8:03) you’re taking distributions out of your business.
(8:05) That doesn’t show up on your income statement. (8:07) So you’re showing profit on your income statement, (8:09) but it’s not reflecting the distributions you already took and spent.
(8:12) And therefore he found himself in a huge cash bind (8:15) and he had to pull in his line of credit just to pay his taxes.
(8:18) So you don’t want to do that. (8:19) All right.
(8:20) So now we’ve diagnosed the problem. (8:21) Let’s talk about the fix. (8:23) You need a system to build cash flow confidence. (8:26) This means knowing where your money is, (8:28) where your money’s going and what’s coming up next.
(8:31) Here’s my four step framework that I use.
(8:34) Number one is I build a cash forecast. (8:37) This is not the same thing as a budget. (8:39) A budget is a plan. (8:40) A forecast is reality.
(8:42) You should be looking at a rolling six to 12 week forecast, (8:46) or I prefer the 13 week cash flow forecast (8:49) because then it represents every quarter.
(8:52) And what you should have on there is your starting cash, (8:56) the expected inflows, your client payments, right? (8:59) Or new deals that are closing. (9:01) And then the known outflows like payroll, rent, debt, (9:04) subscriptions, tax payments, et cetera. (9:06) And then bring all that together to arrive at ending cash.
(9:10) So even a very simple spreadsheet can help you stop guessing (9:14) and start making confident decisions.
(9:16) One of my clients told me that just this one habit (9:19) helped him sleep so much better for the first time in months, (9:23) just by having this rolling cash flow forecast tool.
(9:27) All right. It’s pretty simple to set up.
(9:28) Number two, step number two, shorten your cash cycle.
(9:31) So think of it like this. (9:33) How fast do dollars turn into more dollars? (9:36) You want to shrink that time between spending money (9:38) and collecting money. (9:40) And here’s some easy ways to do that.
(9:41) Number one, collect deposits upfront. (9:44) When I was the CFO of a solar company, (9:46) we would get massive down payments, (9:49) upfront payments, right? (9:50) For these jobs. (9:51) And we’re sitting on so much cash and that was helpful.
(9:54) And we just negotiated that in our contract terms.
(9:57) So maybe you want to change how much cash you collect up front (10:00) or deposits you collect on jobs. (10:02) And that can be helpful, especially with your cash flow.
(10:04) Just be careful because deposits aren’t revenue. (10:07) They’re not profit. (10:08) You have to actually earn it.
(10:09) So don’t just take deposits and go spend that, right? (10:12) You get yourself in a very bad situation.
(10:15) But if you collect deposits upfront (10:18) and use those deposits to cover the expenses (10:21) you’re incurring on the job anyways, (10:22) that will definitely help with cash flow.
(10:24) You could also bill in phases instead of waiting (10:26) until the end of the month.
(10:28) So instead of billing once a month or once a quarter, (10:31) you could bill once a week, once every two weeks, et cetera.
(10:35) All right. So that can be helpful.
(10:36) Even for companies that have recurring revenue, (10:39) instead of billing monthly, you could bill every four weeks. (10:42) And then at the end of the year, (10:43) you’ll get 13 billings in instead of 12. (10:46) So that can help with cash flow.
(10:48) And it can help with profitability, (10:49) depending on your model.
(10:51) You can offer auto pay or ACH options. (10:54) So just make it super easy to do business with your company.
(10:59) I was working with this other business recently (11:01) and I told them, I said, (11:02) you guys should eliminate paper checks (11:04) because they would get paper checks (11:06) that take a while to come through the mail. (11:08) And then they’d have to take it to the bank (11:09) and process it like that.
(11:10) And I’m like, just send a notice out to your customers (11:13) and say, we’re not doing paper checks anymore.
(11:14) For now on, we’re just accepting electronic payments.
(11:17) So you can do the same thing in your business (11:19) and it’ll allow you to collect your cash faster.
(11:22) You can also incentivize early payments with small discounts.
(11:25) So you could change your terms and say, (11:27) look, net 10, 1%. (11:29) In other words, if you pay us in 10 days instead of 30, (11:32) we’ll give you a 1% discount.
(11:34) So you could set your discount, whatever you want it to be.
(11:36) And then you could penalize late payments with fees (11:39) and then enforce them.
(11:40) Just make sure you follow the laws (11:41) because depending on where you’re at in the world, (11:44) like in the United States, (11:46) the max that you can charge for interest is 18%, (11:48) which is 1.5% a month.
(11:51) Now that may change so just make sure, like I said, (11:53) you check with your area and with your lawyer (11:57) to make sure that you have the right percentages (12:00) in late payment terms built into your business.
(12:04) The key thing is, is you’re not a bank. (12:07) So don’t let your clients treat you like one. (12:09) It could be very expensive and very taxing on your cash flow.
(12:12) All right, step number three is treat owner compensation (12:15) like a real line item.
(12:17) Way too many founders draw cash randomly. (12:19) You had a good month, so you pull some cash out. (12:22) You hit a rough patch, you skip your pay altogether.
(12:25) That’s a recipe for burnout and inconsistency.
(12:28) So instead, set your compensation intentionally.
(12:31) So start with the base pay by asking, (12:34) what would you have to pay someone to do your job?
(12:37) Then layer in profit distributions (12:39) based on a percentage of actual available cash, (12:42) not just P&L profit.
(12:44) So you can have a system put in place (12:46) to determine what your distribution payout should be.
(12:50) So this is really critical.
(12:51) That other point that I mentioned (12:54) about paying yourself what the market would demand (12:56) is really critical because I’ll look at businesses (13:00) and their profits are inflated.
(13:03) In other words, they’re showing high profit margins, (13:05) but it’s because their salary or their market salary (13:09) is not built in to their numbers.
(13:12) In other words, they may be paying themselves $50,000 (13:15) or something like meager to run their business (13:18) when they should be paying themselves $200,000 (13:20) because if they ever left, (13:21) that’s what they’d have to pay somebody (13:23) to do their actual job.
(13:24) So they’re tricking themselves. (13:26) They think they have these profit margins (13:28) and they’re doing well, but actually they’re not.
(13:30) So treating owner comp like a real line item (13:33) helps to build predictability for you (13:36) and it protects the business.
(13:38) Step number four, manage by cash, not just by profit.
(13:43) Let’s say your accountant shows $250,000 in net income. (13:46) Before you go celebrating and have a party, (13:49) ask yourself, number one, (13:50) how much of that is actually in the bank?
(13:53) Number two, how much is tied up (13:54) in accounts receivable or inventory?
(13:57) And number three, what big cash needs (13:59) are coming in the next 60 days?
(14:01) So make sure you look at those things (14:04) because your profit is the story, (14:06) your cash is the truth.
(14:09) All right, so here’s a little bonus for you. (14:10) This is one of my favorite tools I use with clients. (14:13) It’s a simple spreadsheet that looks out 13 weeks (14:15) and attracts starting cash, all inflows, (14:18) all outflows, and your ending balance.
(14:20) It’s a 13-week cash flow model. (14:22) All right, so I have a template. (14:23) Every week you can use this, you can roll it forward.
(14:26) It’ll become your early warning system (14:28) and it will help you to avoid surprises (14:31) and no gut-based guessing, just clarity.
(14:34) So if you want that tool, just go to coltivar.com, (14:37) look under resources under the navigation (14:39) and you’ll see the template. (14:41) I’ll put the template in there so you can download it.
(14:43) You can use the tool for free in your business (14:46) because I want you to start paying attention to cash.
(14:49) All right, that’s critical.
(14:51) So let me give you one more story. (14:52) A founder I worked with was considering shutting down. (14:55) She was overwhelmed, she felt broke (14:56) and thought the business was a sinking ship.
(15:00) To help her, we implemented a basic cash forecast.
(15:03) So week one, she realized she actually had a buffer.
(15:07) Week two, we collected on $48,000 in past due invoices.
(15:11) Week four, we adjusted payment timing (15:13) and negotiated better terms with vendors.
(15:16) Just 60 days later, she had $72,000 in the bank (15:20) and was taking home a consistent paycheck (15:22) for the first time in years.
(15:24) No fancy tech, no big loans, (15:26) just visibility, discipline and a plan.
(15:29) And if your business is bigger than this, (15:31) just think about how this can be amplified in your company.
(15:34) If you’re profitable on paper (15:36) but constantly stressed in life, (15:38) you don’t have a profit problem, (15:40) you have a cash problem.
(15:42) And you can solve it with starting with visibility, (15:45) forecast weekly, shrink the cash cycle, (15:48) pay yourself intentionally (15:49) and don’t trust the P&L alone.
(15:52) Because when you understand your cash, (15:54) you can finally lead your business with confidence.
(15:57) All right, that’s a wrap. (15:58) That’s what I’ve prepared for you.
(16:00) If you ever want to talk about your business, (16:02) you can connect with us at coltivar.com.
(16:05) Until next time, take care of yourself.
(16:08) Cheers.